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Old 09-08-2008, 12:07 AM
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What do you guys say? are we bottom out for now? 800PIPs up from Friday low?
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:15 AM
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No. I am not crazy to short at this level. This pair is capable of recovering a 1000 points in less time than it takes to smoke a Camel brand. This chicken-little was right at 212. I predicted it will fall to 180s when the price was at 212. I shorted at 212 but that short got stopped at 214. Then I chickened out.
Hi DollarBull,
You are so right about this pair, the only problem is hard the catch the turning point.
Good luck
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Old 09-08-2008, 12:39 AM
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Dear All,

Actually, I also noticed that the week closed above 190 on my Oanda platform. Now, we are in an interesting territory...'cause of weekend, the price has stayed put while crossing over the downward sloping resistance line of last week's price action.

So, the Asia open could go either way...if it spikes up, it has to contend with 191.50 level (followed by 193.50), while on the downside, 188.25-189 is the first level of support.

I've a slightly changed plan now...a pending long order at 194 w stop at 193 and target of 199.50 and a pending short order at 186 w stop at 186.50 and target of 180.50..let's see...I'm leaving all the in-between price action to whipsaw...
I hope you did close the position after it hit if your order still in place. This afternoon is crazy.
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:06 AM
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Did anyone else lose THOUSANDS over the weekend because their stops werent hit, or was it just me? FXCM are basically saying tough sh*t and deal with it...
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:21 AM
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When a big move like this usually follow by a retracement about at 50-75PIPs, am I right? what do you call that, profit taking?

50-75 pts move up/down in this pair is the "noise level" change.

What I think might happen is, 900 pip gain in a matter of few hours on thin volume won't stand up for the rest of the day and this might fall from (presently near 194) back to 188 soon enough. Reason being, the equity markets will be spooked like hell on Monday, given that the entire shares of Fannae Mae et al got wiped out over the weekend. With wall street falling it may bring down its correlated FX pairs JPY crosses.
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Old 09-08-2008, 02:37 AM
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50-75 pts move up/down in this pair is the "noise level" change.

What I think might happen is, 900 pip gain in a matter of few hours on thin volume won't stand up for the rest of the day and this might fall from (presently near 194) back to 188 soon enough. Reason being, the equity markets will be spooked like hell on Monday, given that the entire shares of Fannae Mae et al got wiped out over the weekend. With wall street falling it may bring down its correlated FX pairs JPY crosses.
You mean a black Monday again? it is always happen on a Monday or Friday, don't it? but on the other hand, may be is a relieve to the uncertainty batttle like last month when I closed the long losing trade.
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Old 09-08-2008, 04:03 AM
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Dear Paul,

My long order was filled at 194 and closed at my stop loss of 193 (-100 PIPs), was not at terminal otherwise would have manually closed it at b/e. I still like the upside break, but want to wait for EU open...will go long at 194+ again with tighter stop at 193.75 with same target near 200.

On Fannie and Freddie, I think the wall street may like it afterall and financial may get a boost (especially stocks like AIG) tomorrow. Basically, now US government is throwing all its credibility behind the mortgage meltdown and this should help calming the nerves for a short while at least.

Aah ... didn't think my long at 194 would be filled so soon...well, should've waited till EU open to enter the pending long order...anyways, now that the trade is on...will see how it develops...as this trade was triggered before my planed time, have already moved stop to b/e on this one...to avoid any whipsaw towards EU open on thin volume...but, momentum looks good, if 195.50 gets broken, then we are headed for 200 this week...good luck all!
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:27 AM
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Dear Paul,

My long order was filled at 194 and closed at my stop loss of 193 (-100 PIPs), was not at terminal otherwise would have manually closed it at b/e. I still like the upside break, but want to wait for EU open...will go long at 194+ again with tighter stop at 193.75 with same target near 200.

On Fannie and Freddie, I think the wall street may like it afterall and financial may get a boost (especially stocks like AIG) tomorrow. Basically, now US government is throwing all its credibility behind the mortgage meltdown and this should help calming the nerves for a short while at least.

Aah ... didn't think my long at 194 would be filled so soon...well, should've waited till EU open to enter the pending long order...anyways, now that the trade is on...will see how it develops...as this trade was triggered before my planed time, have already moved stop to b/e on this one...to avoid any whipsaw towards EU open on thin volume...but, momentum looks good, if 195.50 gets broken, then we are headed for 200 this week...good luck all!
HI Maratha,
The 195.50 be tested now, do you think when EU open will push this pair higher?
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:37 AM
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On the 4H, GBPJPY has closed above the 20SMA trendline although there's a big gap up from the previous candle! (It's been awhile indeed). This could indicate a reversal but price action has been very volatile today and could just be a fake breakout.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:42 AM
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[quote=Maratha;185095]Dear Paul,

On Fannie and Freddie, I think the wall street may like it afterall and financial may get a boost (especially stocks like AIG) tomorrow. Basically, now US government is throwing all its credibility behind the mortgage meltdown and this should help calming the nerves for a short while at least.
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why would the wall street like it when billions of dollars worth shares get wiped out over a weekend? I think the investors will lose confidence and abandon USD and stock market. They will head to Gold. Or other havens. How is the US govt going to cover up for the mortgage losses? Even Treasuries will be abandoned. Sky is falling.
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:09 AM
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Dear Paul,

Yes, that's what my guess is...but you know this pair!

Dear DollarBull,

Look at the DOW futures...they are +250 points and rising...
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Dear DollarBull,

Look at the DOW futures...they are +250 points and rising...
Well, I will short at 195.20 and take my chances. Will see this back under 190. Increased debt is NEVER good. Destroying billions worth shares will shatter investor confidence.
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Old 09-08-2008, 07:11 AM
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Dear DollarBull,

You are right that the equity of Fannie and Freddie is wiped out, but look at it other way....this is the bottom for financials with US govt stepping in to provide the required guarantee against the bad loans.

Also, most of the equity wipeout happened till Friday close, so would we see any fresh drop in markets this week? Market sold the rumour of lack of federal backing and may now very well buy the news of federal support!

Let's see how the week shapes up...
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Dear All,

Didn't like the pair dropping through 194.75, so closed the trade at 194.50 (+50 PIPs)...will wait to see how low the pair goes...191.00-191.50 is the first noticeable support...
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Dear All,

Ok, here is a second try at long from 193...stop at 192.50 and target 199.50...let's see if this one sticks around...
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